Total erasure of OLE email messages

"Kitty" <kitty5@humboldt1.com> wrote:
>
>Hello, does anyone know if it is possible to 'really' erase Out Look Express
>e-mail messages. That is those coming in and those created & sent. After
>a pc crash I've seen those messages as old as a couple of years return from
>the dead as it were. Delete just does not do the job.
>Thanks,
>Kitty

Find "outlook express folder" under c:\windows\application data and open
appropriate .dbx files with editor and delete what you want. then run scandisk
to fix file size.

Don't forget the temp directory. And make sure you use a file wiper since a
deleted file can always be undeleted later.
--
Eli Allen
eallen@bcpl.net

"Michael Howard" <mikehow@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3afc6dcb$1@news.dev-archive.com...
>
> even with this you cannot be 100% sure - what happens if data is in the
pagefile?
> you can alleviate this by opting to zero-out the page file on shutdown.
>

You started it talking about deleting the page file. Mine is about a gig so
it would slow things down. :)

Just thinking, doesn't that mean you should reset instead of logging out
since resetting is the only way to clear the page file?

Oh and make sure you display random images on the screen so that nothing can
be read off it after being turned off. And be sure your room has metal mesh
in the walls and door and either a metal mesh between two sheets of glass
for the window or just coat it in copper. But then its best if the room is
in the middle of the building so rifle mics and/or mics based on reflecting
a laser light don't work.

And wash the keyboard after each use so they can't tell how much each key
was used.

You should also make sure you know all the devices plugged into the computer
and follow then to the peripherals to make sure nothing is inserted into the
middle and there are no other cables running parallel to them as those may
just be there to pick up the signal. And keep the wires away from the wall
as you can't easily check there. Also, keep a radio on just take make noise
to keep any listening devices from working. But then a machine that just
creates sparks off a high voltage source may work better as that makes noise
and jams the radio frequencies.

Someone say paranoid? :)
--
Eli Allen
eallen@bcpl.net

"Michael Howard" <mikehow@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3b00487e@news.dev-archive.com...
>
> ooohhh - such paranoia! gotta love it! :-)
>
> "Eli Allen" <eallen@bcpl.net> wrote:
> >Don't forget the temp directory. And make sure you use a file wiper
since
> a
> >deleted file can always be undeleted later.
> >--
> >Eli Allen
> >eallen@bcpl.net
> >
> >"Michael Howard" <mikehow@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >news:3afc6dcb$1@news.dev-archive.com...
> >>
> >> even with this you cannot be 100% sure - what happens if data is in the
> >pagefile?
> >> you can alleviate this by opting to zero-out the page file on shutdown.
> >>
> >
> >
>

ruining all my fun :(

Oh well
--
Eli Allen
eallen@bcpl.net

"GhostDof" <GhostDog@Ghostdog.net> wrote in message
news:3b06486a@news.dev-archive.com...
>
> Erm, I don't want to spoil anyone's reign of thunder, but the fact is that
> copies of the emails will also be residing on every mail server that the
> messagess were sent by, or routed via. It is impossible to 100% delete all
> trace of an e-mail. Hence the old adage - don't email what you wouldn't
put
> on a post card.
>
> Have a nice day!
>
>
>
>
> "Eli Allen" <eallen@bcpl.net> wrote:
> >You started it talking about deleting the page file. Mine is about a gig
> so
> >it would slow things down. :)
> >
> >Just thinking, doesn't that mean you should reset instead of logging out
> >since resetting is the only way to clear the page file?
> >
> >Oh and make sure you display random images on the screen so that nothing
> can
> >be read off it after being turned off. And be sure your room has metal
> mesh
> >in the walls and door and either a metal mesh between two sheets of glass
> >for the window or just coat it in copper. But then its best if the room
> is
> >in the middle of the building so rifle mics and/or mics based on
reflecting
> >a laser light don't work.
> >
> >And wash the keyboard after each use so they can't tell how much each key
> >was used.
> >
> >You should also make sure you know all the devices plugged into the
computer
> >and follow then to the peripherals to make sure nothing is inserted into
> the
> >middle and there are no other cables running parallel to them as those
may
> >just be there to pick up the signal. And keep the wires away from the
wall
> >as you can't easily check there. Also, keep a radio on just take make
noise
> >to keep any listening devices from working. But then a machine that just
> >creates sparks off a high voltage source may work better as that makes
noise
> >and jams the radio frequencies.
> >
> >Someone say paranoid? :)
> >--
> >Eli Allen
> >eallen@bcpl.net
> >
> >"Michael Howard" <mikehow@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >news:3b00487e@news.dev-archive.com...
> >>
> >> ooohhh - such paranoia! gotta love it! :-)
> >>
> >> "Eli Allen" <eallen@bcpl.net> wrote:
> >> >Don't forget the temp directory. And make sure you use a file wiper
> >since
> >> a
> >> >deleted file can always be undeleted later.
> >> >--
> >> >Eli Allen
> >> >eallen@bcpl.net
> >> >
> >> >"Michael Howard" <mikehow@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:3afc6dcb$1@news.dev-archive.com...
> >> >>
> >> >> even with this you cannot be 100% sure - what happens if data is in
> the
> >> >pagefile?
> >> >> you can alleviate this by opting to zero-out the page file on
shutdown.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>