which language to choose

anwar <anwarp@xglobe.com> wrote:
>i am intending to study programming and need to choose between 3 languages
>namely;vb, delphi or c++. please advice me which language is the best to
>do in terms of industry demand and internet application

If you're coming in as an entry-level programmer, it would probably
be worthwhile to be competent (not an expert, but competent) in more
than one language. Then you can find a job that lets you work with
the one you're happiest about programming in.

And if you're at all interested in web development / ecommerce /
business-to-business stuff, don't neglect Perl or Java. Doing some
work with databases wouldn't hurt either.

Of course, a lot of this depends on how fast you want to get hired
to do programming work, whether you're willing to relocate (some
types of jobs are easier to get in some areas), and how much
you're prepared to invest in tools. Java/Perl/C++, as languages,
have the advantage of freely available tools. For VB or Delphi
would require a large upfront investment. You'll probably also
want to budget some money toward books.

- Katy

>>i am intending to study programming and need to choose between 3 languages
>>namely;vb, delphi or c++. please advice me which language is the best to
>>do in terms of industry demand and internet application

Definitely look at VB and Java (and SQL) as the easiest languages to learn
and to get you a job right away.
I studied C first, then VB, then Java, and it seems to be that the concepts
in C were just easy enough and just complicated enough to teach me
1) how much I didn't know-- aka "humility"--and 2) how rewarding it woudl
be to write an efficient program that dazzled the other students.
It also made me appreciate how much of the dirty work is done for you in
VB and Java. My boss said he would ahve to search a long time to find a C++
programmer,
and he would have to pay a lto more money for a good one. There are a lot
of them, but there aren't very many "good ones". (Kinda like single ladies,
ayy?)
He then said he can find a VB programmer in about 5 minutes, and they dont
charge as much. In other words, it's the quickest way to get your foot in
the door.
Java is like "C++ Lite." Or think of it as Object Oriented C. Use JBuilder....Visual
Age stinks, as most IBM software is enigmatic and counterintuitive at best.

Buy your software at student prices. And bury yourself in database, database,
database, SQL, SQL, SQL, ADO, ADO, ADO. Stored Procedures...now there's
a deceptively simple concept!!
The red-cover books published by WROX are the best I've found. Good Luck!

Totally agree with your point about "a better understanding of programming
concepts.". But it should be noted that C++ requires much more time to
learn. One could even go deeper and learn some assembly language concepts.

Michael

"mrfelis" <mrfelis@yahoo.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
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> anwar <anwarp@xglobe.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > i am intending to study programming and need to choose between 3
languages
> > namely;vb, delphi or c++. please advice me which language is the best to
> > do in terms of industry demand and internet application
>
> anwar,
>
> I'm going to recommend the opposite of everyone else. Learn C++ first.
Then
> pick up the others. Learning C++ will expose you to more than VB ever
> could. This will give you a better understanding of programming concepts.
>
> Once you've learned C++, you can go back and learn VB. You'll be
frustrated
> at times with what VB won't allow you to do but you'll understand more of
> what VB does behind the scenes.
>
> This will take much more time and effort than going straight to VB, but
the
> effort will be worth it.
> --
> ~~~
> C'Ya,
> mrfelis
> mrfelis@yahoo.NOSPAM.com
> just remove the spam
>
>
>

Hi,

mrfelis <mrfelis@yahoo.NOSPAM.com> a crit dans le message :
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> I'm going to recommend the opposite of everyone else. Learn C++ first.
Then
> pick up the others. Learning C++ will expose you to more than VB ever
> could. This will give you a better understanding of programming concepts.

I agree with you, but I think that C/C++ are a lot too permissive. I think
you are better to go with something like Pascal or Ada. It will not let you
everything you want, but you will learn how to program correctly. And then
go with C++ or Java, to learn Object Oriented Programming ( you can do it in
Ada). After that, you will be able to learn the other languages pretty
easily.

> Once you've learned C++, you can go back and learn VB. You'll be
frustrated
> at times with what VB won't allow you to do but you'll understand more of
> what VB does behind the scenes.

I agree. You will understand what you do, not just using what is written in
the books.

> This will take much more time and effort than going straight to VB, but
the
> effort will be worth it.

I agree.

Martin